Comments on: The (White Male) Church Planters Conference…Part II http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html Shaun King's Blog on Courage & Corn Pops Thu, 09 Sep 2010 00:21:15 +0000 hourly 1 By: shaunking http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-18138 shaunking Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:25:05 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-18138 Thanks a ton sis! Hope you are doing very well. Thanks a ton sis! Hope you are doing very well.

]]> By: missional girl http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-18080 missional girl Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:23:11 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-18080 Whooab, brotha! How in the world did I miss your blog? First, props to you and your wife for obeying God's call to plant Courageous. I used to live in the ATL (pre Georgia-Dome days, lol). Secondly, consider yourself added to my blog roll because the Holy Spirit is at work in your ministry. Thirdly, I totally vibe with your concerns about church planting conferences. I'm a 30-something African-American woman who feels called to plant churches. Gratefully, I have a pastor who actually wanted to meet with me and get a feel for what's in my heart to do. I'm doing my own research and looking for other planters (male, female, ethnicity no issue) called by God to support and lift up in prayer. So yeah, we ARE here and God ain't blind. Peace. Whooab, brotha! How in the world did I miss your blog? First, props to you and your wife for obeying God's call to plant Courageous. I used to live in the ATL (pre Georgia-Dome days, lol). Secondly, consider yourself added to my blog roll because the Holy Spirit is at work in your ministry. Thirdly, I totally vibe with your concerns about church planting conferences. I'm a 30-something African-American woman who feels called to plant churches. Gratefully, I have a pastor who actually wanted to meet with me and get a feel for what's in my heart to do.

I'm doing my own research and looking for other planters (male, female, ethnicity no issue) called by God to support and lift up in prayer.

So yeah, we ARE here and God ain't blind. Peace.

]]> By: The White Male Church Planters Conference (Part III) — Shaun in the City http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-12727 The White Male Church Planters Conference (Part III) — Shaun in the City Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:39:33 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-12727 [...] after I wrote “White Male Church Planters Conference -Part I”, I, rather humorously, wrote Part II after learning that my own organizational conference pretty much looked the same.  Again, I made [...] [...] after I wrote “White Male Church Planters Conference -Part I”, I, rather humorously, wrote Part II after learning that my own organizational conference pretty much looked the same.  Again, I made [...]

]]> By: Jim http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-2203 Jim Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:09:22 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-2203 Nancy, I am sorry you feel that way...not sure what I could say more to address your concerns. I am really not looking for an argument with you or Shaun. I was never trying to cause a problem only to open dialogue about the best way to approach situations where personal relationships are involved. I think Bill Hornsby made my point clearer and it has much more credibility as he has personal relationship with Shaun and I do not. That said, thanks for your thoughts and your dialogue, and I am happy that Shaun has individuals like you who support him, we all need those types of people in our lives. Thanks Nancy! Nancy,
I am sorry you feel that way…not sure what I could say more to address your concerns. I am really not looking for an argument with you or Shaun. I was never trying to cause a problem only to open dialogue about the best way to approach situations where personal relationships are involved. I think Bill Hornsby made my point clearer and it has much more credibility as he has personal relationship with Shaun and I do not. That said, thanks for your thoughts and your dialogue, and I am happy that Shaun has individuals like you who support him, we all need those types of people in our lives. Thanks Nancy!

]]> By: Nancy http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-2200 Nancy Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:14:32 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-2200 Jim: I still wish that I could address you privately, and I am only commenting now so that you know that when you responded to me, I did not feel that you addressed my comment at all. I feel like you used my comment to further your agenda, which I'm still not so sure of what it is. I will not respond to you on this blog after this. If you want to respond to me you can at nbgoombah@yahoo.com. Just a suggestion, you could have used an open blog post requesting Shaun to reach you privately. This is my first experience with blogging and I must say, it has been interesting for me. Jim:
I still wish that I could address you privately, and I am only commenting now so that you know that when you responded to me, I did not feel that you addressed my comment at all. I feel like you used my comment to further your agenda, which I'm still not so sure of what it is. I will not respond to you on this blog after this. If you want to respond to me you can at nbgoombah@yahoo.com. Just a suggestion, you could have used an open blog post requesting Shaun to reach you privately. This is my first experience with blogging and I must say, it has been interesting for me.

]]> By: Jim http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-2199 Jim Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:44:45 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-2199 Furthermore, I did not say that we knew each other, or imply that in any of my posts...what I did say above is that I was praying for you and that we were on the same side. I am very sorry if I hurt your feelings or touched a nerve as I was only discussing your approach to things. If I did something to offend you I am truly sorry! Once again, I will say that I am encouraged by your passion and heart for the city and strengthened by what God has called you to do. I pray that we will meet in the future at a ARC event or somewhere down the road and we could have coffee. Thanks Shaun! Furthermore, I did not say that we knew each other, or imply that in any of my posts…what I did say above is that I was praying for you and that we were on the same side. I am very sorry if I hurt your feelings or touched a nerve as I was only discussing your approach to things. If I did something to offend you I am truly sorry! Once again, I will say that I am encouraged by your passion and heart for the city and strengthened by what God has called you to do. I pray that we will meet in the future at a ARC event or somewhere down the road and we could have coffee. Thanks Shaun!

]]> By: Jim http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-2198 Jim Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:44:05 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-2198 Shaun, I am very sorry to hear that you feel I am "insincere" and that I "resorted to a major cop-out". I promise I was not trying to, I was only trying to address Nancy's comment. I was not looking to get into a he said she said type of a deal...that really detracts from the issue and it is clear that the issues are erased by this type of dialogue. All I can tell you is that I emailed to this address shaunking@courageous.tv However, I am not sure this is the point as you posted your items on an open blog and I had intended on responding to your posts...I thought that is what you wanted...open debate, but I could be wrong, if so, please forgive me! I hate that we have gone so far as to begin questioning someone’s integrity. Shaun,
I am very sorry to hear that you feel I am "insincere" and that I "resorted to a major cop-out". I promise I was not trying to, I was only trying to address Nancy's comment. I was not looking to get into a he said she said type of a deal…that really detracts from the issue and it is clear that the issues are erased by this type of dialogue. All I can tell you is that I emailed to this address shaunking@courageous.tv However, I am not sure this is the point as you posted your items on an open blog and I had intended on responding to your posts…I thought that is what you wanted…open debate, but I could be wrong, if so, please forgive me! I hate that we have gone so far as to begin questioning someone’s integrity.

]]> By: shaunking http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-2192 shaunking Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:52:21 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-2192 Hey Jim, I am winding down my commenting on this thread, but you have been pretty INSINCERE in this comment man. Someone basically told you that you are doing the same thing that you found to be so problematic with me and you basically resorted to a major cop-out. You suggest to Nancy that you really tried to contact me and resorted to all of your comments on here because you couldn't reach me. You NEVER reached out to me about this issue. Period. Did you call me? Email me? My office? Speak to my assistant? I am about the most accessible guy you will find that is really on the net. Did you send me a message of Facebook or Twitter? I have 10 different ways to be reached and we can't find where you tried any of those. Believe me - we checked. I don't even know who you are man. Shaun Hey Jim,

I am winding down my commenting on this thread, but you have been pretty INSINCERE in this comment man. Someone basically told you that you are doing the same thing that you found to be so problematic with me and you basically resorted to a major cop-out.

You suggest to Nancy that you really tried to contact me and resorted to all of your comments on here because you couldn't reach me.

You NEVER reached out to me about this issue. Period. Did you call me? Email me? My office? Speak to my assistant? I am about the most accessible guy you will find that is really on the net.

Did you send me a message of Facebook or Twitter? I have 10 different ways to be reached and we can't find where you tried any of those. Believe me – we checked. I don't even know who you are man.

Shaun

]]> By: Jim http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-2141 Jim Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:20:39 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-2141 Shaun, I wish you would see my posts once again...I did not "act as if you exposed a secret" as I agree with diversity being included within all conferences as I pastor a church with tons of diversity as said previously. My issue was with, once again, how you have gone about it! As far as me I am 32...not the old guy that you make me out to be...LOL. Hopefully rather than see our debate as negative you will realize this is iron sharpens iron. Btw, we are in the same network and are on the same side! Thanks! Shaun,
I wish you would see my posts once again…I did not "act as if you exposed a secret" as I agree with diversity being included within all conferences as I pastor a church with tons of diversity as said previously. My issue was with, once again, how you have gone about it! As far as me I am 32…not the old guy that you make me out to be…LOL. Hopefully rather than see our debate as negative you will realize this is iron sharpens iron. Btw, we are in the same network and are on the same side! Thanks!

]]> By: Jim http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/the-white-male-church-planters-conferencepart-ii.html/comment-page-1#comment-2140 Jim Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:09:19 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=529#comment-2140 Furthermore, I am not sure that it is "dumb" as there are individuals who think that ARC lacks diversity and "reached out to you". I had a couple of individuals of diversity (one black and two hispanic) read your posts and the reason I said "hypothetical with merit" is because based on your posts they said "wow those guys may be racist"...so not sure what you make of that but that is what they thought..."dumb" or not. I pray that people do not think this, however, you told me of ten already who question the diversity aspect. I don't know Shaun...I just wanted you to think about what you were saying...I have said things in ways that were true but not said properly in the past and wanted you to see this. I was hoping for some understanding and think that your response to Bill was encouraging and happy that you said what you did. You seem defensive and upset at me but I care about ARC and the perceptions that people have, furthermore, the perception you have of this entity that has helped you and so many others. Thanks Shaun! Furthermore, I am not sure that it is "dumb" as there are individuals who think that ARC lacks diversity and "reached out to you". I had a couple of individuals of diversity (one black and two hispanic) read your posts and the reason I said "hypothetical with merit" is because based on your posts they said "wow those guys may be racist"…so not sure what you make of that but that is what they thought…"dumb" or not. I pray that people do not think this, however, you told me of ten already who question the diversity aspect. I don't know Shaun…I just wanted you to think about what you were saying…I have said things in ways that were true but not said properly in the past and wanted you to see this. I was hoping for some understanding and think that your response to Bill was encouraging and happy that you said what you did. You seem defensive and upset at me but I care about ARC and the perceptions that people have, furthermore, the perception you have of this entity that has helped you and so many others. Thanks Shaun!

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