Comments on: Places to Avoid List http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html The Blog of Shaun King Thu, 12 May 2011 15:57:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: shaunking http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-2497 shaunking Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:48:05 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-2497 Hey!Thanks for your comment. This post was supposed to be a vulnerable post that exposed the thought process (good or bad) that sometimes goes into where people choose to eat, shop, dine, etc.When you choose to eat out, do you have places you prefer to go? Why? Places you almost always stay away from? Why?Of course I don't think anyone will poison our food, but I have not yet explained same sex relationships to my four children (all under age 9).-- Shaun KingLead Pastor, The Courageous ChurchWeb: <a href="http://www.Courageous.tvBlog:" target="_blank">www.Courageous.tvBlog:</a> <a href="http://www.ShaunInTheCity.comPhone:" target="_blank">www.ShaunInTheCity.comPhone:</a> 404.461.9850<br />From: IntenseDebate Notifications Hey!Thanks for your comment. This post was supposed to be a vulnerable post that exposed the thought process (good or bad) that sometimes goes into where people choose to eat, shop, dine, etc.When you choose to eat out, do you have places you prefer to go? Why? Places you almost always stay away from? Why?Of course I don't think anyone will poison our food, but I have not yet explained same sex relationships to my four children (all under age 9).– Shaun KingLead Pastor, The Courageous ChurchWeb: http://www.Courageous.tvBlog: http://www.ShaunInTheCity.comPhone: 404.461.9850
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]]> By: 3FlWhe http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-2493 3FlWhe Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:59:16 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-2493 Hmmm.... I've been meaning to respond, but work got in the way. Quite candidly, reading this post was a lesson in patience. I was just holding my face as I read it, trying to make sure my eyes didn't roll up into the back of my head. I think the simplest thing to say is... So what's the problem again? Do you believe that the gays will poison the food? Or that when they hold hands, kiss, or do those things that everyone else does that....what? In short, when you reread what you said, does it make sense? & if it does, are there some other thoughts - rather, fears - that you're not voicing? Hmmm….

I've been meaning to respond, but work got in the way. Quite candidly, reading this post was a lesson in patience. I was just holding my face as I read it, trying to make sure my eyes didn't roll up into the back of my head. I think the simplest thing to say is…

So what's the problem again? Do you believe that the gays will poison the food? Or that when they hold hands, kiss, or do those things that everyone else does that….what? In short, when you reread what you said, does it make sense? & if it does, are there some other thoughts – rather, fears – that you're not voicing?

]]> By: Greta http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-2435 Greta Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:37:08 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-2435 Hi Shaun, I have not read any of the above comments as I wish to have a clear perspective on this writing. What comes through for me is a story that was written in a Sunday School paper that I will never forget. It was about a couple walking on the beach. They were living together (as some would people say "living in sin"). What Jesus saw was the people, not the sin and he loved them just as they were. I do not remember the fest of the story as that was all I needed to take with me. i have never forgotten that. I met a young gay man several years ago and he is one of the most beautiful people I have ever met. I love him for who he is. His spirit is so beautiful. Is he a Christian? No, I don't think so. But he lives his life far better than most people, in truth, honesty, love, and beauty etc. From the Sunday School lesson, I took - love the person, not the sin. This is what I believe God wished me to take. The gays I know (I only know male gays though) are some of the most beautiful people on this earth and I call them my friends. Shaun, I have 2 children, (grown up now. ) I thank God for my children who taught me many things, including to love others as they are. I too, once looked at gays differently, The beautiful innocence of my children opened my eyes to perhaps looking at things a little like God does. That's not to say I am entirely comfortable with same sex people kissing etc, in public and that I would be exactly really comfortable in a gay restaurant etc if there was an abnormal amount of physical affection, however, I trust that I would be given the grace of acceptance and if accompanied by children I know that whatever happened would be part of God's plan for both myself, the children and the patrons. Hi Shaun,
I have not read any of the above comments as I wish to have a clear perspective on this writing. What comes through for me is a story that was written in a Sunday School paper that I will never forget.

It was about a couple walking on the beach. They were living together (as some would people say "living in sin").

What Jesus saw was the people, not the sin and he loved them just as they were. I do not remember the fest of the story as that was all I needed to take with me. i have never forgotten that.

I met a young gay man several years ago and he is one of the most beautiful people I have ever met. I love him for who he is. His spirit is so beautiful. Is he a Christian? No, I don't think so. But he lives his life far better than most people, in truth, honesty, love, and beauty etc.

From the Sunday School lesson, I took – love the person, not the sin. This is what I believe God wished me to take. The gays I know (I only know male gays though) are some of the most beautiful people on this earth and I call them my friends.

Shaun, I have 2 children, (grown up now. ) I thank God for my children who taught me many things, including to love others as they are. I too, once looked at gays differently, The beautiful innocence of my children opened my eyes to perhaps looking at things a little like God does.

That's not to say I am entirely comfortable with same sex people kissing etc, in public and that I would be exactly really comfortable in a gay restaurant etc if there was an abnormal amount of physical affection, however, I trust that I would be given the grace of acceptance and if accompanied by children I know that whatever happened would be part of God's plan for both myself, the children and the patrons.

]]> By: shaunking http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-2267 shaunking Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:57:09 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-2267 Hello EBG, The purpose of this particular blog post was to reveal my transparent thoughts (and struggles) with this issue. Part of my concern with this location of FB is the public display of affection. I have a 4 kids under the age of 9 and we just haven't explained all of this yet. I'd love for you to still check us out and let us know your raw, honest thoughts. Take care, Shaun Hello EBG,

The purpose of this particular blog post was to reveal my transparent thoughts (and struggles) with this issue. Part of my concern with this location of FB is the public display of affection. I have a 4 kids under the age of 9 and we just haven't explained all of this yet.

I'd love for you to still check us out and let us know your raw, honest thoughts.

Take care,

Shaun

]]> By: ebg http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-2263 ebg Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:40:51 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-2263 I was disappointed to read this blog. I have a 2 year old and one of the things I love about the church that I currently attend is that we are so open to all walks of life, including gay and lesbian. I was considering checking out your church just out of curiosity, but to know that just the idea of bringing your children to the FB causes so much strife, I think I know all I need to know. You may say you are open to all but your blog says otherwise. I was disappointed to read this blog. I have a 2 year old and one of the things I love about the church that I currently attend is that we are so open to all walks of life, including gay and lesbian. I was considering checking out your church just out of curiosity, but to know that just the idea of bringing your children to the FB causes so much strife, I think I know all I need to know. You may say you are open to all but your blog says otherwise.

]]> By: Ron http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-2004 Ron Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:51:50 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-2004 I wish you would be a scholar and learn why these subcultures had to be created. If you did some unbiased research on the history of media in America you would see why. Jim Crow was just 40 years ago. And that is part of the reason why there is a Black History Month because in your case you were not given by whatever school you went to the tools, the history and experiences that shaped our America. Our experience encompasses more than slavery, MLK, and Hip-Hop. But you would know that if you were a true scholar. When the Civil Rights Bill was passed, racism didn't just stop. Like the Bill immediately telepathically erased it from everyones mind for there on to eternity. You will be a fool to think so. And in light of this past election how it polarized America, esp. Georgia and all of my own personal experiences: Racism and bigotry is alive and well. I wish you would be a scholar and learn why these subcultures had to be created. If you did some unbiased research on the history of media in America you would see why. Jim Crow was just 40 years ago. And that is part of the reason why there is a Black History Month because in your case you were not given by whatever school you went to the tools, the history and experiences that shaped our America. Our experience encompasses more than slavery, MLK, and Hip-Hop. But you would know that if you were a true scholar. When the Civil Rights Bill was passed, racism didn't just stop. Like the Bill immediately telepathically erased it from everyones mind for there on to eternity. You will be a fool to think so. And in light of this past election how it polarized America, esp. Georgia and all of my own personal experiences: Racism and bigotry is alive and well.

]]> By: wisdomofmany7 http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-1966 wisdomofmany7 Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:36:18 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-1966 PART2: I support your views on maybe "sheltering" your children from seeing the gay couples, but if you were out with your wife, friends, or even alone-would you consider sharing your faith with a gay person? At some point or another, your children are going to want to ask you about the two guys they saw holding hands walking in the park...just an example, but it's bound to happen in time. I just got the sort of feeling that you were discriminating against gay people. I mean, honestly, I do believe that being gay/gay marriage is totally against the Bible, but I wouldn't shun people who are. I'm trying to seriously live like Jesus, and if I saw a gay person walking near me, or around where I am, I wouldn't turn the other direction and walk away. I'd continue on walking, because we are all human-and only God is supposed to judge. Well, that was my two-cents (& my first 2 comments on here!) PART2: I support your views on maybe "sheltering" your children from seeing the gay couples, but if you were out with your wife, friends, or even alone-would you consider sharing your faith with a gay person? At some point or another, your children are going to want to ask you about the two guys they saw holding hands walking in the park…just an example, but it's bound to happen in time. I just got the sort of feeling that you were discriminating against gay people. I mean, honestly, I do believe that being gay/gay marriage is totally against the Bible, but I wouldn't shun people who are. I'm trying to seriously live like Jesus, and if I saw a gay person walking near me, or around where I am, I wouldn't turn the other direction and walk away. I'd continue on walking, because we are all human-and only God is supposed to judge. Well, that was my two-cents (& my first 2 comments on here!)

]]> By: wisdomofmany7 http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-1965 wisdomofmany7 Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:35:51 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-1965 PART1: Well, since I don't really talk with people a lot (kind of shy, or just find it really hard to trust people nowadays), I decided I should start by voicing my opinions on your blog. While I do believe I would be uncomfortable being around a mostly gay area, I would not avoid it because of that reason. With my old church, they would reach out even more toward gay people, in hopes that they would be willing to go to a Bible Talk, or even attend Church service. I don't avoid certain parts of town. I go where I need to go for groceries, Church, school, etc...but I don't go to areas I don't NEED to go to. I have been in mostly black areas (and live in an area where the majority of people are black...and I was raised in an area which started out mostly white, but is now is mostly black. I support racial diversity and HARMONY-but think as a nation (and in ATL), that we live among eachother, but we live separate from eachother. PART1: Well, since I don't really talk with people a lot (kind of shy, or just find it really hard to trust people nowadays), I decided I should start by voicing my opinions on your blog. While I do believe I would be uncomfortable being around a mostly gay area, I would not avoid it because of that reason. With my old church, they would reach out even more toward gay people, in hopes that they would be willing to go to a Bible Talk, or even attend Church service. I don't avoid certain parts of town. I go where I need to go for groceries, Church, school, etc…but I don't go to areas I don't NEED to go to. I have been in mostly black areas (and live in an area where the majority of people are black…and I was raised in an area which started out mostly white, but is now is mostly black. I support racial diversity and HARMONY-but think as a nation (and in ATL), that we live among eachother, but we live separate from eachother.

]]> By: shaunking http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-1944 shaunking Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:23:11 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-1944 Hey Friend! Race and racism is much more alive than you may understand. However - this post is not just about Black & White. It's about how we live in an amazingly diverse nation of gifted men and women and how so many of the leading "national" Christian conferences lack anything close to diversity. Hey Friend! Race and racism is much more alive than you may understand. However – this post is not just about Black & White. It's about how we live in an amazingly diverse nation of gifted men and women and how so many of the leading "national" Christian conferences lack anything close to diversity.

]]> By: shaunking http://www.shauninthecity.com/2009/02/places-to-avoid-list.html/comment-page-1#comment-1943 shaunking Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:21:37 +0000 http://www.shauninthecity.com/?p=519#comment-1943 I bring up a lot of stuff in my Tweets. I have over 7,000 of them. Less than 1% mention race. You just pay more attention when I bring race up. How is talking about race racist? That logic is flawed at best! I bring up a lot of stuff in my Tweets. I have over 7,000 of them. Less than 1% mention race. You just pay more attention when I bring race up.

How is talking about race racist? That logic is flawed at best!

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